Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 12 Continued

Continuing from the previous thread. The finale can't come soon enough.

Sutton dressed as lamb. What a state.

Diana does have some valid points. Sutton comes for people in the most bizarre bullshit manner. What was that feud she had going with Crystal last season? So pointless.

Painful ending. Not sure I can stomach watching this female version of lord of the flies. Crystal came off the best with her shocked face. I’m sorry, I do like Garcelle, but her saying to Sutton “that was hard” just didn’t cut it at all. It was almost as if she agreed with Diana but thinks it’s hard for Sutton to hear it. How about saying “Don’t let it bother you, she’s clearly a monster (and so are you Erika for cackling like a witch).”??

Sutton is awkward and Diana just seems to misinterpret everything she says but I laughed when she said "well she is one" after Sutton mentioned Erika calling her a cunt. Diana is so self-contradictory though since she told Garcelle she was going to try to move on with Sutton.

Kyle's shit stirring is just too obvious this season. Every group scene she's bringing up conflicts. So what if Garcelle and Sutton unfollowed Erika?

I think Diana makes a good villain actually but I highly doubt she'll be back next season.

I saw people on social media complaining about how short Mauricio was towards Kathy and Crystal in the kitchen after he cooked the steak. Did most people really think it was a big deal that he shut Kathy down about the corn? She wanted it grilled but it was boiled? She said it after he came in from grilling the steak.

I’m hoping Kyle will answer for her blatant shit stirring at the reunion. Though I don’t think we’ll get an honest answer since the truth is likely that was either being directed by production or could tell the season was a dud and was doing anything she could to save it by creating drama. The real problem is that she sucks at it. Say what you will about Rinna but she manages to stir up drama in a way that seems not nearly as forced.

Yeah, I love this season because it's been fun to watch Rinna's downfall but it's truly bizarre that someone (usually Kyle) brings up beef that has been quashed multiple times in previous episodes because there's so little going on. Like I don't expect much but this is pushing the artificiality to a different level.

Does Kim make an appearance this season?

You know you're in the wrong when even DORIT looks bored and disgusted with your bullshit (KYLE AND the rest of the piranhas)

I think Dorit's going to come back. Diana has to go, Rinna seems like she's done, and three may be too many to fire at once.

it's going to be interesting to see if Crystal stays friends with Diana given the backlash

given all their charity foundation involvement, I find it weird that Sutton and Diana never met prior to this show

Kyle shit stirring is just so predictable now.

Is Crystal Breath still puking everywhere?

Diana and Sutton had to know each other prior to the show, and I would guess that is where their conflict originates.

And staying in house with Kyle, Erika, Mauricio and Rinna sounds like hell on earth. No wonder Kathy bailed.

I keep waiting for the KYLE IS A PRODUCER troll to chime in. "Kyle has to stir the shit because she's a producer!"

A producer with no producing credit. 🙄

This entire franchise is jumping the shark. I don’t think it’ll make it another 5 years. There is a huge backlash against reality TV coming.

I want to see how Crystal handles being on the receiving end of 1 of Erika's tirades. That will be new for her. She got a small glimpse at the reunion last year but nothing like what we saw in the previews. I'm curious if she'll stay strong or break down and cry

R8 No, but I love turtles and you're a slut pig!

Of course Crystal will cry. And call Erika problematic. And claim she’s triggered. And say she needs a safe space.

R20 That's not the half of it. It's much darker than you know.

and the other question is how will Erika respond to Crystal's passive-aggressive, vague reactions to their conflict? Erika won't be scared like Sutton. I think she'll still be charging head on like a bull. I think it's going to be quite an interesting clash but we might not see all of it because the others will interrupt and break it up before it goes too far

Crystal and Kyle’s surreal lunch where Crystal told her to think carefully about her words (L-O-L) is an unsung highlight of this season. I hope she brings it like that with Erika.

I cracked up at the preview of Kyle telling Erika not to say she doesn’t give a shit about other people. Not because it’s not true, but simply because Kyle didn’t know how to defend it. Lmao.

I don't see why Kyle think it's always her place to defend the actions of others like Kim in Amsterdam

R2 it wasn’t humorous on the previous thread either

Dumb me - I thought I was going to hear something benign like Kathy saying the N word and I got that nasty hateful shit show. Everyone ganging up on Sutton was shitty. I’m done with RHOBH it’s just not fun anymore. Oh, and fuck Kyle.

R27 the Kathy stuff is the end of the trip

last night was just night 1

I just finished the episode and I am shocked by how Diana tripled-down on Sutton. Did she not even bother to watch a single season before joining? You never paint yourself into a corner like she has. Even cunt Erika kept the door open a crack with Sutton. Wow.

Separate from her being bad at her job, Diana is just absolutely hateful. Revolting.

I must have missed the episode where Sutton came after Diana laying on the floor dying. I mean Sutton has tried, taken the blame and apoligzed. I think Diana missed a memo that they were done piling on Sutton.

When Diana decided to make her dramatic exit , it didn’t thrill me that Kathy (one of my faves) came running to her saying “Diana, no honey! Don’t leave. Come back”

I guess she’s not ok with peole being called liars, thieves or pedophiles but is ok with a person crying in the group after being called a cunt.

Sutton managed to make Diana and Erika look like big hairy cunts by saying nothing.

Even Rinna kept her mouth shut.

The simple fact is that Sutton IS a cunt.

I use the word cunt all the time but I would know better than to say it on tv, especially directed towards a FAN FAVOURITE.

In Bosnia “cunt” is mean the mule’s vagina. I’m not mule.

I wish someone would have had the balls to call out Diana’s connection to pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

Which episode were the Diana hollywood madam rumours brought up?

Also, she and Erica are a pair of bloated cunts. Erika has gradually shown season after season that she is one of those combative, loudmouthed, trashy whores who can never be told they're wrong. What an asshole.

And the only reason she may have, allegedly, not known about where the money came from, is because her Husband thought she was too stupid to feel the need to share that information with her.

I don’t find Diana as bad as that nasty ass Erika. So, she’s getting lots of sex now. I can’t even imagine the most horny guy in LA wanting to stick his dick in that cooze. She’s a bully and very damaged material.

Next time they go away on a girl’s trip, can they invite Ezra Miller to come along?

Can someone send a ghost-bringer to Diana's hotel room?

Very bad, dark things were said in Aspen. They were the most vile things you’ve ever heard. I have to go so I can’t say what they were and I’ll never speak about it again. I’ll let your mind wonder and guess what was said.

R3 the feud Crystal and Sutton had last season was entirely fueled by Kyle. Any time they got to a point of understanding and gave each other space to get to know each other at their own pace, Kyle would pipe in with “guys, you have to sort this out. No you can’t be silent. You’re sitting here at the dinner table not talking to each other.” and sat back, smirking like a hook-nosed witch, as they both dissolved into tears.

R4 Garcelle actually did come to Sutton’s defence right away, she called out Diana in the moment.

In the daily mail Denise said she’s willing to come back even if Rinna is still there. And we know that Denise is desperate for money since she is doing Only Fans. So that might have just guaranteed Rinna stays another season. Drama storyline with Denise. I’m so over this show. Ugh.

Diane called it out in front of them like they should have. Kyle appeared sympathetic in the group but was a cunt in the "aside" and Crystal called it out in the "aside".

Lisa laughed at Bosnia when she said she was on her deathbed.

I meant Garcelle not Diane lol

lmao Denise needs to stop. Bitch was a flop in her 2 seasons. No one likes it when cast members leave every fight scene. Her husband's "cancer is your best friend" scam career would also likely become a storyline and that would be a legitimate flaw to attack

It’s too bad Asher didn’t join them. He could have diffused the tension in the room with a song.

I would like to see more interaction between Mauricio and Asher. Mauricio is used to being the "younger" and "more attractive" husband on the show because most of the others have been older, uglier and fatter. Asher is much younger and fitter. I wonder if he would be jealous

R50, I doubt it! Mauricio is rich by his own devices and Asher is a joke boytoy. I can’t imagine him feeling threatened.

Are Asher and Bosnia's son fucking right now while she's away or are they both masked and tied up waiting for some daddy to impale them both anally?

If by some miracle Diana is there next season, I want Denise Richards present as well. Denise in her Only Fans era, Erika seeking employment as a dominatrix, Diana fighting back against rumours of organising yachting parties.

It’s a new era of sex positivity for these slut pigs.

Asher reminds me intensely of Breckin Meyers skater character in Clueless.

Diana is trying to sue blog writers who wrote *about* the Himmmm (speculation at the time it was RDJ) responses to blind item posts on CDan. She’s feeling awfully threatened about something… If Epstein mentions can come up on RHO Dubai’s reunion The same can happen on RHOBH.

Why is PeeKay always jetting off to London? In this COVID world, does he not understand that Zoom is a thing now?

And what do they do with their prop children when he's across the pond and Dorit's in Aspen?

R16 Is there a troll who always claims “It’s scripted?”....If not there we should have one

Did PeeKay say he was having dinner with Lionel Ritchie and John Legend, or serving them dinner?

ZsaZsa is unhinged. She spends all of her time responding to trolls on socials. Sad.

What has happened to the lighting on all these shows in the last 5 years, why is it so bright and artificial? the overhead lights they’re bringing in to homes make it look like it’s being filmed in a CVS.

Sutton’s gay… that’s so sad. All the alleged progress in gay rights and some are still relegated to jester and servant to “ally” women. She’s definitely the type who has the attitude, “I love the gays, as long as they fix my hair and make me a cocktail”

R59 I’ve noticed that too. But Kyle’s aspen house probably needed all the lighting it could get. By Housewife standards - particularly Kyle and Mauricio- it was a little dingy and l, dare I say, small. There were way too many people in there.

R61 probably also because all of America is switching to ugly LED cool blue bulbs

Mo in the cowboy hat was annoying. Rich people cosplaying for their environment is so obnoxious.

Kyle never has to worry about Kathy with Mo, their interaction is like someone with their grandmother.

In Bosnia, zee weegee bored es for when mule die and you want say bye bye to best friend.

Anyone who says “asinine” is usually an idiot?

Sutton plays victim. They were crocodile tears.

When did Chrissy Tiegen join the cast?

Diana looks like a chipmunk with a trout mouth and cow tongue.

Diana’s confessional tits are awful. I hate looking at them.

Kyle wanted a small house in Aspen so they didn't have to have too much company. LOL!

WTF was up with Kyle getting unhinged about the Christmas lights still being up on her half of the Aspen duplex she owns? That was some weird shit.

Yes, darling we have a place in Aspen… a duplex.

"ZsaZsa is unhinged. She spends all of her time responding to trolls on socials. Sad."

I thoughtfully trolled her on insta and she never responded!

R72 I'm sure she told "the help" to make sure the Christmas lights were taken down before she arrived with her friends, lest she look like lazy white trash. So she was horrified when she got there and saw them still hanging. I bet some folks got fired that day.

Kyle was concerned that Kathy would come and see the lights still up. She is the height of insecurity. Did you see how she was driving and had her Birkin (possibly fake need to see it up close) camera center? There is something really sad about attaching one's personal worth to a fucking handbag.

Diana's call out did not make sense. When did Sutton come for her while she was laying on the floor dying? SHe called her out for sending a group message saying her doctor told her not to go to Sutton's party for a miscarriage she had what months ago? But apparently gentle flower Diana was on the ground bleeding and Beast Sutton tried to rip out her utereus.

Erika and Rinna only hang with Diana because she pays for everything.

Honestly, if the only people you can count on as friends are Rinna and Erika (notwithstanding the fact you also have to foot the bill) -it's definitely time to reevaluate your life.

Well, Dorit escorted Diana to the door to say goodnight, Kyle defended her, Kathy begged her not to leave and Sheree laughed along with Erika.

They are all a bunch of attention whore hags with their god-awful fake tits hanging out.

Crystal should leave the show. I like her, she's relatively normal and has a nice husband and young kids. Get back to charity work, helping in her kids' schools, and forget this shit that ties her to bulemic vomit. Yuck. Wearing nice clothes while getting in stupid fights is not a good look.

Crystal has really flown under the radar for around 10 eps now and I think it will serve her well. It would have been nice to see her align with Sutton/Garcelle but at least none of the shit from the Flab Four has ended up hitting her.

This dreck cannot possibly be scripted. Most of these bitches can’t keep their lies straight, let alone memorize lines.

[quote] Most of these bitches can’t keep their lies straight

You mean like Denise who claimed to hardly know Brandi despite text messages proving otherwise? Or like LVP who claimed to have nothing to do with puppygate despite text messages proving otherwise? And who both got labeled by viewers as the victims of bullying after their lies were exposed? So, yeah, of course these women lie all the time now--the insane viewers have made the rest of the cast too terrified to ever call them out on it. That's why they just nod and smile now when Erika spins her nonsense about Tom's accident or when Diana RSVPs no because a dead fetus is supposedly hanging out of her vagina.

In Bosnia, dead fetus hanging out of vagina is considered ornament.

How do they cast this show? Stand outside of Incest Survivor & Alcoholic support groups?

Which housewives (of any show) do you think read the DL threads about the shows?

DL doesn’t have much of a social media presence honestly, so I don’t think these women would know about DL or care, if they do. Their social media people probably get alerts.

If I had to pick one in this group who may know and take an occasional look, it would be Garcelle because she seems to have more of a friend relationship with Andy Cohen than the others. The wonky-eyed-one may have told her about this “vile pit of trollery”.

A belated thumbs up for your thread title OP.

Sutton is no angel. In her first season she was very much putting on the Southern belle act like she'd just come off papa's plantation and was going to show everyone else a thing or two about etiquette and haute couture.

Then she became holier than thou, feeling they should all distance themselves from Erika, Sutton worrying about her social standing which was ridiculous when you consider sex tape Paris. It is all self inflicted.

I'm here for you, Sutton! Just take me out of the drawer.

R87 Andy friended her and checked a box

R91 bitch, they meet for drinks and/or dinner when they’re in the same town.

That’s a fact!

R92 yeah so Andy can get that Insta picture and quell the rumors. Don’t act like until recently his only friends aren’t just Poptarts like SJP and Anderson.

Everyone welcome Andy to the thread! R92

Kathy hanging with Precious.

R83 I think the reason why viewers labelled Denise a victim of bullying because they all kept shtum about their own similarly scandalous secrets for weeks of promoting her offscreen cheating allegations - and they kept on, and on, and on. And in following seasons we’ve seen Kyle repetitively raise issues that have been put to bed simply to cause drama.

Teddi Mellancamp gushing “oooh, the gossip really bad” was a weird energy. Maybe someone in their late 60s would be shocked that the erstwhile Playmate, Bond Girl and Wild Things star is a swinger, but to younger viewers who grew up with reality TV, Denise fucking someone who was not her husband smelled of Sister Mary Francis clutching her pearls.

Especially because not a word was to be uttered about the multiple thefts at businesses Teddi’s husband secured, or Harry Hamlin and Julianne Phillips, or PK’s Las Vegas debts, or Mauricio’s cheating.

Why were they so indignant about Denis lying? They all hated Brandi from day one but then welcomed her into the fold to see those receipts.

Women are fucking insane

Garcelle spotted filming with LVP.

What does Oliver do for Lisa? Is he a host at her restaurant or a bar tender? I’ve never seen her shows.

R99, he works at her Vegas place. Not sure what the role is.

plus if Denise sexuality isn't a problem then why did Kyle feel the need to keep bringing up her "affair" with Brandi?

[quote] not a word was to be uttered about the multiple thefts at businesses Teddi’s husband secured, or Harry Hamlin and Julianne Phillips, or PK’s Las Vegas debts, or Mauricio’s cheating.

True, but they also didn't have receipts on any of those things. If Denise had just said "Yeah, I'm friends with Brandi. Now mind your own business." then the others probably would have let it go. Instead, Denise insisted that she didn't even know Brandi despite there being months of text messages proving otherwise. It was that flat out, obvious lying about basic facts ("gaslighting" as Rinna called it) is why they wouldn't let it go.

R103, kind of. They also didn't have *anything* else that season, largely because a large cohort of the cast is united in hiding their own and each other's dirt. The producers were well aware of how boring the season was shaping up to be so they cut Brandi a check and instructed Kyle and Rinna to hit the gas on the Denise's "scandal."

[quote] If Denise had just said "Yeah, I'm friends with Brandi. Now mind your own business." then the others probably would have let it go.

That’s just not true. In no universe would they have let this go. They won’t let go of Sutton making a thoughtless joke when dropping off a coat in Crystal’s room for a full season.

[quote] Instead, Denise insisted that she didn't even know Brandi

And viewers understood why she did. Because what it boiled down to is viewers watching likes of Teddi Mellancamp and Erika Jayne insisting someone justify her sex life to them which no sane person would want to do thinks Teddi and Erika deserve to know how they take their coffee. Denise laughed it off a few times, then denied it a few times, then and Bravo-Bravo-Fucking-Bravoed thereafter.

They raised it. She responded. And then it didn’t fucking stop. On a general level to hector someone about their sex life and marriage after they laid down boundaries weird and rude and antisocial, like when Ginny From Billing stops by your desk and asks if you’re married, why you don’t have kids and what you church attend.

It’s not scripted, it’s guided. The producers act like PIs and then drop bombs to certain cast members. The “stars” signing NDAs that stop them from discussing certain aspects of the production.

"Kyle was concerned that Kathy would come and see the lights still up. She is the height of insecurity. Did you see how she was driving and had her Birkin (possibly fake need to see it up close)+

R76 Kyle always carries a Birkin front and center .... God forbid we viewers might might miss it.

I'd replace my own skin with Birkin flesh if I could afford to!

Kyle, Kathy, Kim....

Is this where Kris Jenner got her stupid ass idea of giving all her kids a name beginning with 'K'?

blame Big Kathy, Kyle is usually a boy's name

Melloncamp and EJG actually started on Denise after she hosted a casual party and told the ladies the teens were at another table so keep the sex talk down...which seemed ok to me....They NEVER let that go

Denise seemed reasonable about the request and had explain over and over why she, even though her career was based on her sexual imaged, had nothing to do with what kind of conversations she has in from of her kids and their friends...

.Kyle of course was the instigator with that...lord if they were worth it, Ud bother to hate them but I dont

No Garbelle stay away from LVP

[quote] They won’t let go of Sutton making a thoughtless joke when dropping off a coat in Crystal’s room for a full season.

No, what they wouldn't let go was Crystal claiming she was "violated" by Sutton. Which they were right not to let go because Crystal intentionally uses loaded words to stir shit up so then she can act like she's the victim.

I always thought Sutton surprised and witnessed Crystal barfing up that dinner and it was embarrassing and humiliating for her.

I want to see Jennifer Tilly become a friend next season

In next weeks preview Sutton tells Erika she likes her and Erika responds with ‘I like you, too. We just need to sort some things out.’ That’s intriguing.

They all say that to each other every single episode. Then one of those involved in a feud will discuss it with another woman and it descends into a bitching session. No wonder gays love this franchise!!!

the problem with Erika and Sutton is that every time they take a step forward, someone brings up old shit and they end up taking another two steps back

Does Diana pay for a crew to come in and remove the bad energy from the hotel room AFTER she leaves.

I just hope she and Precious can make their peace, for the sake of the show and us gals.

Sutton and Erika had an exchange earlier in the season about Erika helping Sutton study for the bar and they both laughed at the spectacle of Dorit speaking Spanish to the driver in Mexico. This is what I meant upthread by Erika keeping the door cracked when she feels like there's no more upside to terrorizing Sutton. Diana by contrast won't even address Sutton directly (a wild choice) and has made it impossible for them to film together as a duo and extremely awkward to film as a group. Don't make producers lives hard, Diana!

Trouble in paradise. Oliver’s wife is talking divorce on her IG account, alleging he committed adultery with coworkers and guests of LVP’s restaurant.

^Sorry he’s a dirty cheating dog but what do you want his mom to do about it?

Kyle might be the true villain of the season (and series), everyone else are basically her proxy assassins.

Fuck Kyle and her 5th nose!

Wow so is Garcelle's son going to be on Vanderpump Rules? Is that why she was filming with LVP? Is Oliver LVP's newest broken bird?

Who’s suggesting his mom do something about it R125?

R113 It was clear to everyone that Sutton is a ball of anxiety who is inarticulate and slightly on the spectrum, and Crystal is a ball of anxiety with an eating disorder and body image issues, and they bad first meeting with multiple minor clashes that snowballed.

They didnt raise the issue of Sutton/Crystal again… and again… and again… because they were passionately defending Sutton against Crystal describing feeling violated. That’s a comical argument. They did so to watch them fight. Every time they came close to calm and civility Kyle poked the bear.

Sutton gets so nervous she uses a face roller in public. Crystal has a serious mental and physical illness. To put it very unkindly, they’re both crazy. But let’s not pretend making the crazy women feel like shit at a lunch, and bring a magnifying glass to Denise’s sex life, or hollering questions at a charity dinner in front of the CEOs and Melissa Etheridge in the hopes that Rinna will attack Sutton is about truth and justice.

R118 and it’s patently obvious keeping the division between Sutton and Erika/Diana, and Garcelle and Rinna, is Kyle’s m.o.

I think Erika and Dorit actually want to get along with Garcelle. Erika as good as asked her to ditch Sutton and joint their group, like they’re in middle school. And Sutton and Erika have a similar sense of humour in a lot of ways. Erika always said she had few female friends, and I think would manage fine socialising with Sutton without being buddies.

But no one will disengage from Kyle’s really basic manoeuvrings for some unknown reason. She’s no better at this than LVP was.

The moment Erika turned on Garcelle was at Rinna's event when Garcelle told her that she didn't believe her stories about the court case.

Erika Jayne is guity of stealing money from widows and ophans. To fund her selfish slut lifestyle. The truth will come later.

Sweet deal. Go on show, endorse shitty product lines for more cash and free, on show advertising. Plus, all the liquor you can or can't handle.

Shocker of shocker at R124. Garcelle’s son with the face tattoos ended up being a dirtbag.

Kyle is doing a huge publicity round right now. I think it's damage control -she might be the source of the bots.

r83 actually the text messages proved she wanted nothing to do with it. It was all through Teddy and one of the Vanderpump dogs people she was friends with you said Lisa wanted her to do this, but then he ven told Lisa he did it on his own thinking she would want that.

^maybe, but Lvp was the Radar Online leaker after all, it’s revealed in the Not All Diamonds & Rose book that it was an acknowledged fact, Lvp met with the cast & demanded they support her on-camera, which they all refused, then Lvp packed her bags & ran off the show.

Sutton’s latest Instagram post: “in honor of suicide prevention…” a picture of ME!!!!!

Kathy at the Aspen dinner:

Can't we grill the corn? I don't want boiled corn!

Where's the utensils?

Kyle, which steak should I pick?

Where's the butter for the corn?

This corn is not cooked!

Where's the napkins?

Corn? When did I eat corn?

You could tell Mauricio was one Kathy gripe away from her tossing her over the balcony and into the snow.

If you search for "Kyle Richards looking shocked" you will be rewarded with zillions of photos of one of Kyle's fakest facial expressions.

Mostly they're from her career as a model for an inflatable sex doll company but they are frequently spliced into episodes of RHofBH whenever someone says something mean after Kyle instigated the confrontation.

Mauricio and Kathy seem to have a long and tortured history. I'm fairly sure that I wouldn't have thought twice about Kathy's little complaints if I'd just met her, but after 25 years of them I'm sure I would be right where Mauricio was in the kitchen.

It is obvious Mauricio HATES Kathy. I find it hilarious.

Kathy thought Mauricio was the landscaper.

As a producer, I would expect Kyle to do exactly what she’s been doing.

They could at least spread the shit stirring around r147 if it is the producer expectations. If Kyle have half the shot stirring to Dorit to work on it would at least give Dorit a role to play

“If Kyle had half the shit stirring…”^

Tom Schwartz also smashed Rachel Leviss. Maybe making up for lost time since she and the Brit seldom had sex together, and none for over a year.

A gal has urges, ya know.

Don't think it's been mentioned in the last thread, but the picture of PK's teeth before Homeless and Toothless did their magic. Wowser!

[quote] then he ven told Lisa he did it on his own thinking she would want that.

I thought all of the interactions b/w Lisa and the staff seemed super phony and like she'd brow beaten them into covering for her. But I guess she was exonerated by that super authentic lie detector test.

r130 again not True. Radar Online said that the leaker was a Housewife but not LVP. Look do I think Lisa is a saint? No. But she knew how to make good television in concert with the other women, not at their expense. Lisa got Teddy's brother a job at her restaurant, even pushing for him to become a member of the cast of VP Rules. When Teddy schemed to do this to Dorit, Kyle stopped her and convinced her to blame it all on LVP, just like everyone else does. When Rinna said Yolanda hand Mucnchausens, she said LVP told her to say it. When Camille called out Taylor's domestic abuse, she said LVP encouraged her to say it. When Brandy was going to bring the Enq with the article about Maurcio cheating, she blamed it on LVP. Brandy who is a nightmare shit stirrer was there telling everyone else that LVP was behind every bad thing on the show and the all ate it up. I KNEW IT! Now that she is gone we see who truly is the shit stirrer. It's Kyle. Forcing a fight between Stutton and Rinna while she and Maurcio sit back and laugh. Laughing at Erika cussing out Garcelle's 14 year old son. Playing off talking about sex around Densie's children when she asked them not to because they are Charlie Sheen's kids so they must know what a blow job is. God forbid anyone talk like that to her prescious offspring though. Kyle is the puppet master, not Lisa.

Yes, clearly when every single person on the show said LVP was manipulative and was encouraging them to do things behind the scenes, it was all actually a diabolical plot by Kyle. In fact, I hear Kyle Richards isn't even her real name. It's actually Keyser Soze.

[quote]Mauricio and Kathy seem to have a long and tortured history.

That's what happens when you do business with family and walk away with all the clients.

What was the full deal there? Mauricio set up shop elsewhere and poached clients?

Very tacky

Rape is a violation, walking into the bathroom when Im sitting on the toilet could be embarrassing, nothing more. Our Asian butterfly is way is too delicate for this show...her name is fitting

It was very telling that Kyle and Mauricio have owned that Aspen condo for 3 years and this was the first time that Kathy has stepped foot in it. They are not close and haven't been for years. I doubt Kim has been in it, either. There is just too much bad blood between the sisters for them ever to be close again.

And for the guys off camera to ask that question was telling. ^^^^^

I dunno, maybe it's just because Rinna, Erika, and Diana are driving me crazy this season but I don't mind Crystal. She's refreshingly normal, along with Garcelle. I think it's incredibly sad that she decided to talk about her eating disorder to get a storyline/stay on the show, however. I would prefer her to have pretended to have an affair or jump in a hot tub naked rather than that. This gig isn't worth putting yourself out there like that, especially since she and hubby have plenty of money without it.

Crystal has been odd this season. I don't mind her. They went nowhere with the 'she was dropped by 14 friends' storyline.

She snarks still on Sutton though on post show interviews. I think she was going to join in with the bitch force based on how things were going in Mexico but that seemed to never completely happen.

Crystal is a great advertisement for an eating disorder. She's no way skinny, great hair and looks fab in everything she wears.

I didn't find it odd that Kathy hadn't been in Kyle's Aspen house before. It's a vacation home, not a permanent one.

Most of the cast has an eating disorder. You never see them eat at these dinners. At best they push food around. Rinna and Dorit are the worst with that.

Rinna is despicable with regards eating disorders. Wouldn't be surprised if she encouraged the ho' daughter.

Fat whores get way less per hour in Dubai.

The only thing Rinna's daughter eats now is camel shit.

Sutton and Jennifer Tilly could be like a reality-tv remake of 'Ab Fab.'

Sutton's an insecure fame whore who's always in ridiculous outfits and has a straight-laced kid, and Tilly is her boozy, over the hill bombshell best friend. Only Sutton's the one that hasn't eaten in years and Tilly's the voluptuous one.

Plus, Lisa Rinna is basically a bimbo-fied Katy Grin, and Dorit does a great Bubble impression from time to time.

Sutton's store.... *eyeroll*

Middle aged woman blows alimony on vanity project.

Sutton's store.

It says established 1971. She must have bought it and changed the name otherwise she was one precocious newborn.

1971....she's such a fraud.

Meaning she was born in1971 guys. It’s tongue in cheek.

1971? She is one old looking 50 year old. Erika is a year older, looks better and had the rougher upbringing and life of the two.

I fucking love this interaction. I think it's hilarious and I don't understand why so many overly sensitive Kathy stans on social media are raging at

why pick a side? It's fucking funny that they clearly don't like each other. I just would have liked to see Mauricio and Rick Hilton interact

r154 - If you could start massive shit and point at someone and go "she told me too" and everyone would believe it, wouldn't you do it too? PK was her good friend, she brought Dorit on the show, and defended her when Rinna accused her of doing coke in her bathroom at a party when Erika called her boring and repetitive. Same with Teddi. Notice how they suddenly became BFFS with Kyle and they changed loyalties? Kyle knew LVP was the queen bee and always would be. She wanted her off the show.

[bold] lmao here's a new Dutch interview summary. Since Yolanda lucked out that someone in the industry thought her average looking daughters could model and their careers took off, she doesn't need housewives anymore and vows not to come back [/bold]

cici.loves.you Yesterday @yolanda.hadid was a guest at the talkshow of Dutch tv host @evajinek ✨

She was there to discuss her new role as a judge on “Hollands next top model” - even though that is her official title, she prefers to be called a coach because she does not want to judge but to inspire and help the models grow and be better.

Some interesting things were said. I mentioned most in the caption of the post. Other things that were notable were:

• After filming she felt like she had to leave LA to film it all. She did not call it toxic but that was the vibe I got from her that she felt like that because she literally had to ‘escape to a farm in Pennsylvania’ to gather herself.

• She said she did not enjoy filming because of several reasons. She was going through severe health issues (the road to discovery of the Lyme disease) and that she was not believed by her cast mates.

• She brought up Munchausen or how ever that is written 😅

• She said she never earned anything additional than the Bravo pay check but did see it as a great platform to build and launch her daughters careers

• When she joined the #rhobh it was because she wanted to work again after being a stay at home mom for years and she did recognize that this could be a great way to start to get back in the biz again

• She does recognize the popularity of the show and said that it did bring a lot of great opportunities to a lot of people

• She was adamant about it all being real (back then) and nothing was scripted. Yes the ‘don’t talk about my husband’ dinner was discussed and she said everything was REAL! And she was embarrassed because if happened in a very local Dutch restaurant where people are not used to situations like that.

• She said a lot of A-listers watch the show. She talked about a run in with Oprah and how much she loved the show and Yo was surprised that ‘people like that’ enjoyed RHOBH

Also, that back drop of Rinna was there for about a good 5 minutes. 🤣🤭

R176 Erika has aged better than Sutton because Erika is fat and Sutton has limbs the width of bamboo stems.

Interesting interview with Sheree

She’s so thirsty and desperate. I dread that they make her a regular. She laugh with glee whenever the meanest things get said about others.

Not surprising will was with her. He likes obnoxious self- riteous women.

Will Smith has been paying Sheree a small fortune to keep her mouth shut ever since she walked in on him fucking another man.

She will always “ride with him” if she wants the $$$ to keep rolling in.

r184 truth. Yolonda is such a narcissist. Did she fail to notice she forced an eating disorder on Gigi or that Bella was a drunk with body dysmorphia issues? If she didn't want to be on Reality TV why did she do a Tyra Banks-like Top Model show where she was the judge and jury? (I remember one episode she told a 16 year old girl she was too "loose")

Wow r185. She sounds absolutely deplorable

Haaaa....OMG R185 I’m watching that crap right this very second..I think it was the first thing that came up on my Hulu reality...

She so self important and puts herself right up there with “Christie and “Naomi” and calls herself a supermodel...I never heard of her before BH..oh whatever as is she a legend in her own little mind

I think less of Oprah for watching this, so much for higher thinking

Thank god they learned a lesson from Yolanda that humorless, lying, self-important,, former European sex workers who married for money aren't a good fit for this show.

Diana has extra energy. Not as in too much, as in she just oughta be in the background and never speak.

Do you think Kyle has been sabotaging Diana this whole time? Maybe coaching her behind the scenes on what to say etc?

R181 Well, I'm finished with Sheree.

If I was recovering from a long battle with Lyme disease, I wouldn't then move to a farm in Pennsylvania, which is probably teeming with ticks. I get the feeling that most of her Lyme symptoms were the result of her rich husband dumping her.

In Bosnia, father alway search vageena of dauhter for tick at night after mother sleep. If he find he put special creeme on it. We never get lime dizese.

Her “Lyme” disease was caused by her leaky tit implants. She got a lot better when those were removed.

When she had them removed , LVP had a scene with her in the hospital when she was still recovering. That pig David Foster called during the scene and told LVP that Ken now had bigger tits than the Dutch hooker.

R195 she probably had biofilm

Watching Yolanda try to shoo away Gigi’s burgeoning lesbianism was hysterical to watch. The look on her face when the word “volleyball” was mentioned was priceless.

Yo’s “Who is Adrienne Maloof in this world?” conversation with Brandi is a classic.

Dorit and Ericunt giving cover for Diana being the nasty witch she is:

Diana and Sutton are both horrendous.

On RHBH whenever they referred to Yolanda as a former model, they showed the same two photos because she really had no modeling career. My bet is she was a yacht girl, that is where she met Muhammad.

YoYo slept with a lot of famous men, like Enrique Iglesias. It's funny how so many of the BH women have a long sex history with famous men. Hooker behavior.

R201 wasn't it Julio Iglesias? Yolanda was a gold digger and famewhore. Now it's worked out for her as her daughters are considered top models despite their average looks (Yolanda is prettier than both of them).

There are a lot of similarities between Yolanda and Diana except for the modeling part.

Did Yolo get doo doo'd on in Dubai?

After seeing that clip at r198 I just went from neutral about Dorit to fucking hating her. They can’t give Sutton a break on anything. It always has something along the lines of “BUT” she deserved it ot the bully was just needing to put it all on the table. I hope Dorit is demoted to friend next year. Her and PK will have no (legal) way to pay all their bills anymore.

Weren’t her Lyme disease symptoms due to expired breast implants?

That pink and black thing Sutton is wearing is wearing in R198.

She hasn't a clue about fashion. She wears things to disguise her barrel torso.

Bring back Camille as a friend. I didn’t like her before but she was hilarious in Season 9 and hated every single one of them and told them so. Any time one of the women needled her she ripped their heads off.

once again NO to Camille

her support of Brett Kavanaugh should be disqualifying.

Additionally she was so unstable at that last reunion it was cringeworthy. Claiming they were out to get her, make her look bad and she's a victim...just weak

how many times are posters going to call for the return of Camille, LVP and Denise? They're gone for a reason and there's no reason why production can't find new cast members

Speaking of which, I miss Faye popping in from time to time. Loved her book. She described one of OJ’s friends she fucked. He was hung big. A big ol piece of drift wood.

Faye was in the audience when Kathy was on WWHL a few weeks ago. I laughed when she said she's not into the drama given how much of a desperate famewhore she was in the 90s

That wasn’t Faye who fucked him, r210, it was Nicole Simpson. Faye wrote about in her trashy book. And the man was Marcus Allen, who was OJ’s good friend and married.

That annoying deaf woman, Kathryn, who was on for one season hated Faye for writing about it. Kathryn was Marcus’ ex-wife -they had their wedding at OJ’s Rockingham estate.

Faye implied in the book that Kathryn was either stupid or did not care about Nicole and Marcus fucking. Apparently this wasn’t true.

Kathryn spent her first several episodes on the show bitching about Faye writing this in the book. She finally met up with Faye at a dinner with the entire cast, and before she could confront her Faye announced, “if I have done anything in the past to offend any of you I am so sorry.” Then she turned to Kathryn and said, “you look REAL PRETTY TONIGHT.” Kathryn was deflated and her storyline disappeared.

Kathryn is good at picking hot men at least

Ew, LVP can stay away.

I want Camille or Kim or Denise or hell, witchy-fucking-poo Carlton back as friends because it’s getting fucking boring and actually really depressing seeing these overly produced public fights orchestrated by Kyle and with those fucking cats Erika and Rinna and Diana cackling away, and Dorit and Crystal being doormats, and Garcelle saying “c’mon, that’s not nice” and Sutton holding it together until the last 5 minutes of the show where she freaks out in response.

Those women gave some different and active responses to what Dorit and Crystal can manage. I would have loved to see Carlton would have told Kyle off for an in appropriate use of the Craft and Kim calling people slut pigs.

I think Rinna/Diana out and Kim/Eileen in. Dorit friend of, Sheree OuT!

I know Kim is a mess, like to see her when she's not. She was a true child star. Much more interesting to me than her sisters.

Kim was the biggest child star during the 1970s after Jodie Foster. They must have been up for a lot of the same roles back then. I bet Big Kathy hated little Jodie. I wonder if Kim auditioned for The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane?

There would have been no Kathy and Kyle without Kim paving the way.

Big Kathy probably wanted Kim for Pretty baby too.

Kim supported the whole family.

Little Kathy has always been a FLOP. Hollywood has said no to her at almost every turn.

Kyle had the great fortune of appearing in a classic horror film so she will always have that. But Kim is the true talent of the family.

I hated Carlton when she was on, but if she came back she would put Kyle in her place. So...

I loved how Carlton kept accusing Kyle of being an anti-Semite.

[quote]I miss Faye popping in from time to time

She was a cunt with too much facework.

219, I agree. Just watched an episode of The Rockford Files with Kim Richards. She had the talent even back to Nanny And The Professor. I think a likeable actor has to have some substance as a person.

Kim supported the whole family and kept them all afloat, so Kyle did indeed steal her goddamn house.

Kyle and Lil’ Kath could never

Kim had it all over her Kyle. Prettier, more talented and kinder. Unfortunately, Kim inherited the alcohol gene from their mother. Kyle is just luckier than Kim.

Kim ate Christina Ricci’s lunch

Kim seems the type that would snap and tell all the alleged family secrets, the incest, the gentleman callers Big Kath arranged etc. so as usually happens the delusion, repressed lying siblings aka Kyle & Lil Kath discredit her as insane so if she squeals they have plausible deniability.

225, that's a good clip. I'd like to see Kim Richards get a great role. Great idol from my childhood. Even had a crush on Kim, and I'm gay.

[quote]Kyle had the great fortune of appearing in a classic horror film so she will always have that.

Kyle got that role in Halloween because of Kim! Kim had appeared in John Carpenter's Assault on Precinct 13 two years earlier. Kim's prior work with Carpenter is what opened the door for Kyle to appear in Halloween.

That's kind of their life story: Kim opens the door for Kyle, and then Kyle rushes in and slams it in Kim's face.

R229 and as a female younger than her, I wanted to look like her back then. I think she was quite beautiful and wholesome in her teen stardom years.

Kim was very pretty and wiser than her years. She had sparkle.

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Big Kath was a cumguzzler, allegedly, but by all accounts

Didn't BK have her own barstool at the Beverly Hills Polo Lounge? In order to whore herself.

Doeth she have a feeling doeth she? In Serbia the cunt ladies behave like a Sutton.

When is salt lake starting again?

BK was an unrepentant hood digger. Kyle speaks of her with such pride more than the others. I would be ashamed of having her as a mother.

R238 in a few weeks. Here's the thread with the trailer

RHOBH has to be the most stressful reunion for Andy as he has to juggle so many egos.

Atlanta is a breeze, those ladies run it themselves.

That clip at R225 is quite loaded- a daughter confronting her mother for whoring her out to older men, pretty much like Big Kathy did to Kim.

Another vote here for Kim returning- but they goad her into hitting the bottle.

I love Kim. As happy as I am to see her from time to time, I hope she never returns to this viper pit full time.

these bitches think Sutton is a mean girl?

Classic Mean Girl behavior is getting a group and discussing the behavior of one girl when she is not there. Classic Mean Girl behavior is bringing up the same topic over and over in a group to instigate a fight and then sitting back and laughing. Classic Mean Girl behavior is pretending to be their friend, gaining their confidence, then taking what they said out of context and telling the rest of the group. Classic Mean Girl behavior is Kyle, Erika, Rinna, and Dorito. Kyle - constantly brings up Sutton's conflict with Erika knowing it is not resolved in group settings where it is inappropriate, Erika - threatens Sutton in front of the group with lawsuits and violence and the entire group and only Garcelle stands up for her. Rinna - her former friend taking one simple comment defending Garcelle and blowing it up to a whole season's storyline with support from the other mean girls. Dorito - the Gretchen Weiner of the group - is there to stamp everything approved and pass on what Sutton says in confidence.

Why did Yoho have the Lime disase? For a storeyline?

I think it was a combination of that and a desperate need to keep that pig Foster around, r248. But David Foster isn’t the type to spend his days at an ailing wife’s bedside.

r249 he all but told her that. I think he thought if she did RHOBH she would "get over" her Lyme which every doctor who saw it on tv said she had something else because Lyme was curable. I believe she did have Muunchahsen. She was desperate to keep Foster and thought being permanently sick would keep him. Suprise! it's how you lost him, She even tried to say Bella and Her son had it too. Remember when she confronted Rinna about saying it wtih Erika, who hated Rinna at the time until of course Rinna blamed LVP and they all went OHHHH. I don't think Yolonda ever bought it though and still hates Rinna to this day.

Sometimes I wish these shows would let drama take a back seat and allow these women to actually get to know one another.

I'm so tired of Diana using her miscarriage as an excuse to attack Sutton. "She came after me while I was bleeding! She came after me while I was on the fucking floor!" First of all, she didn't come after her. And, second, Diana was fucking fine. All Sutton did was ask Diana why she claimed to be too ill to attend her event but was feeling well enough to attend Garcelle's. I wish someone would call the Bosnian whore out on her blatant rewriting of history.

We have to talk about the genius Sharon Stone foisting the Toothless Not Homeless off on Dorit. She gets rid of the dodgy charity and she gives her starfucker neighbour something to other than stand on her lawn shouting about how chic and fabulous Sharon is.

It’s nice.

I'm boozeless but not tootless.

“They should really change the name of that organization.” — Sutton

Uh Kim, you're on your second set of dentures already. Dumbass meth bitch.

There should be a Real Housewives: Betty Ford Clinic.

Put all the boozebags in it. Cast-Brandi, Kim, Dorinda, Luann, Shannon STORMS Beador….who else?

Does anyone else think that Sutton is gross, on an other level. Bad personality, and what's with her body? Odd, all around. The only good I've seen in her is her relationship with her kids.

Personally, I think Sutton is slightly on the spectrum. That's why I think the other women perceive her as rude even when Sutton is really not trying to be a bitch.

I'm 258. You may be right. She might not fit in because she's less of a vampire. Not sure, though?

I don’t think she has a bad personality. She lacks a filter at times but that’s nothing compared to a lot of these bitches and their mean girls group think.

Kyle to me is a huge weirdo with her wanting to spread her legs at parties all the time and I think she’s barely above the height cut off for being a dwarf. Literally one inch less and she could have instead been on Little People Big World.

Kyle and the sideways splits. Trashy. Did she take gymnastics or is it nastics her mother taught her.

When she wore that playboy bunny outfit to her daughter’s 30th birthday party (I think that was the occasion) in her backyard a few seasons ago - that was bizarre. I felt second hand embarrassment for her at the time. Now I don’t like her anymore and it’s all just weird.

Her half niece, Paris is now doing the family commercials for Hilton hotels. Is that a good marketing strategy? She's so loose.

Sutton has a relatively good sense of humor. She’s quite inarticulate, as we’ve seen, and either isn’t able or isn’t inclined to go jab-for-jab.

Related, I despise Diana but I also think she doesn’t have sufficient grasp of English for this program. She might play it up a bit but I also think she doesn’t understand significant chunks of the conversations around her. I don’t think she’s particularly bright, which doesn’t help.

Good points r265. I do think Diana also has a mean nature too.

Sutton may be odd, but she's a much nicer person than Kyle, Erika, Rinna and Diana.

Sutton is not nice, she just plays victim better, because she is nuts and legit confused at times

She;s all about things and status. She's one of them.

[quote]Personally, I think Sutton is slightly on the spectrum.

Uh, no. Autistic people are not that "with it"

R271 You know nothing about Autism Spectrum Disorder. "Rain Man" lied to you.

r264 - Paris might be doing commercials but I don't think Rick or Kathy have anything to do with Hilton hotels. They got cut off after abusing the Hilton Hotels all over the world (Barron had a strict rule of no freebies, but Rick would intimidate the managers who dare not call to verify if they could stay for free. They knew they were Hiltons so never asked. RIck and Kathy would leave Paris and Nicky alone with the hotel staff to watch them while they went out and partied, Once his grandfather found out he cut them off.

Don't they still have a financial stake, though. I know Paris sits well with younger population, but to me, she is deplorable without virtue.

They completely sold off their stake in Hilton. Also while in NYC the family actually lived at the Waldorf Astoria. Not a Hilton branded hotel. Perhaps Hilton had some relation to the Waldorf at the time, at best. But there’s no way that family would stay in an actual Hilton back then. Too middle class.

I'll have to look up what the they do have stake in so as to avoid giving them more of my money. Possibly this is why Kathy is appearing more on RHOBH. Not just money, but she doesn't seem to be filtered on show, which I do like. No fear of being cancelled by the Woke-ensteins.

I don’t think Kathy would care if she “got cancelled” for example. She lives in a rarified world with like minded other filthy rich people. Although it does beg the question - why is she even bothering with rhobh. Someone mentioned it might have been for a bit of public opinion after Paris wrote a book or something about her abusive experience at bordering school they shipped her off to and what seemed like general bad mothering during the New York City years.

Definitely a bad parent just by looking at her daughter. Rich people raising children as pets and marital pawns.

Did Kathy and Rick ever sell their spec mansion in Bel Air?

I think Kathy's other kids are fine. Great people have messy, embarrassing children. I don't think she's a saint by any means but I won't judge her by Paris.

This show is such a great demonstration of female social power and female bullying. Women deface reputations when they dislike a target. They take a few instances of Sutton being a little emotional or a bit tactless with her words, and they blow it up to the point that she's totally socially inept and awkward. And then they repeat this exaggeration over and over again until everyone believes them. The defacement of her reputation has been effective, because Sutton fans buy the narrative shift, despite supporting her. But when Sutton makes one mistake, which she will, she will prove the mean girls right, and she will lose support.

They call each other the C word. I can't say it. C__T. It's not CANT. PASSWORD ryhmes with punt, runt, shunt, hunt, and bunt.

Rachel Roy - AKA Becky With The Good Hair and mother of Ava Dash - just loves Diana’s European energy

I’m European. Hell, I’m Eastern European.

We think Sanela is full of shit, too.

Rachel Roy was trying to get in with Melania after the 2016 election.

Melania wasn’t interested.

Says it all.

r280 uhh Kathy's other children. You mean Conrad?

R287, I’m the KH parenting defender earlier in the thread. Yikes. That’s a shame.

I recently read House of Hilton. Even Big Kathy thought Little Kathy was a terrible mother. And that's saying something.

I wonder how many of those Vanderpump Rules bitches thought they'd end up on this show just because they got married.

r290 None actually. You have to be rich. They are barely middle class and aged out of the young Hollywood scene. Lala would probably be the only one possible IF she married Randal. She didn't so - MEH. SHe is a Brandi wanna be.

LVP returning with Lala as friend of was floated a few years back but it doesn’t seem to have taken hold. Who knows, though? Maybe possible again if they shake up the cast as much as seems possible. I really wonder if Kyle would be able to last a season with LVP…

Where are they holding the Shampoo.Rinse.Repeat petty arguments in tonight’s episode? Are they still in Colorado?

They could just do all of this via Zoom.

Never been a fan of Sutton, from day 1 she was going on about being matey with Dolce & Gabbana, took Rinna along for fittings, now Rinna loathes her.

Then Sutton friended Erika and did the whole 'us Southern gals' routine before worrying about her own rep when Erika's life went to shit.

Sutton was all snooty with Teddi and made a jibe about her being boring.

Then she went for Crystal.

Then Diana.

Sutton is a dumb cunt. She lacks the looks, wealth and charm to rise above these women.

Eat shit, Rinna at r296.

None of the broads you listed are worthy of your outrage.

Sutton is getting her come-uppance.

Know your place, skinny-legged girl!

I like her, though.

[QUOTE] Are they still in Colorado?

They literally just arrived in Aspen at the end of the last episode. Have you ever watched this show?

R272 : My cousin is autistic. Sutton is not.

No R299. I’ve never seen it. Not a second of it. I just posted to annoy you.

Crystal always looks like she’d rather be home with her kids.

R302 You said something very dark to me direclty, I can't repeat it but you know what was said

Any bets how many minutes in will people be telling Sutton to apologize to Diana before they leave aspen and that she shouldn’t have been hurt by Diana ripping her a new asshole in the last scene?

The last 15 minutes were fucking riveting. And it looks like the Kathy meltdown starts next week.

They’re killing me with dragging this shit out over 3 -4 episodes!

Erika has shown her cunty colors, no getting back from that. It was fun to watch Kyle try so hard to get Erika to take her vile words back.

Now that I’m watching on my big tv, Diana has some massive creases/wrinkles all around the perimeter of her face. And eyes. Wow!

In Bosnia we ski on scraps of woods dressed like garbage can puppet

In Bosnia, we learn to ski when our father throw us down mountaintop to kill us because he want boy child, not girl.

[quote] Are they still in Colorado?

Yes, they went in December and are all still there living in Kyle's house. The next season will be retitled the Real Roommates of Aspen.

Rinna’s the classiest, most humble, giving and caring person ever! I don’t understand all the hate.

I lay bleeding on table and you treat me like this?

I am a fan of garcelle amd think Erika is guilty of stuff, but garcelle is wrong to bring it up and Erika would be essentially admitting guilt and then where do you draw the line after you give over the earrings?

It's quite disingenuous for someone as savvy as Garcelle to act like she doesn't understand why Erika has to "act as if" w/r/t this legal case.

Garcelle should’ve let the earring thing go after they had the first conversation.

[Quote] Garcelle should’ve let the earring thing go after they had the first conversation.

Oh, I agree. Let's not bother Erika. Surely she could afford that lifestyle playing her occasional gigs in gay bars. Surely she didn't take any of that stolen money. Gay bars pay MILLIONS!

How many takes did they do before getting that shot of Kyle and whoever drinking the shots from the rifle. It started full but when she was tilting it the shot glass is clearly empty and she is fogging it up vs swallowing.

Obviously no one told Erica to scream BRAVO BRAVO FUCKING BRAVO when things get too heated.

Garcelle thrives on being the pot stirrer,

Erika is just bad at explaining it. She should have just said, I am dammed if I keep them, dammed if I give them back so I trust the court process. If have to I will give them back. Does Crystal or Garcelle truly believe giving over 750K earings will get right to the victims?

I was all in for the earring inquisition! Also loved seeing the sneering, and looks from the pit of hell both Garcelle and Crystal were instigating. Then the chain reaction of horror of each woman weighing the collateral damage they'd incur if they supported Erika in such a truly disgusting tirade.

Can't wait for Kathy to go off next week. It's like the show just woke up.

Rinna is a true bitch if Kathy went to her and said they have my tequila here and then Rinna immediately orders the Kendall Jenner one and adds on because she’s my friend. Like total bitch.

for the record, Sutton never came after Crystal

Erika is just one nasty bitch. I don’t even think a bit of it is acting. Underneath the gloss and glam is a rotting soul.

Absolutely, R325. Erika is a total sociopath. I know that word is thrown around very lightly these days, but she's truly a textbook example.

Andy said on WWHL that Diana has donated money to the victims in the Girardi scam.

I think Sutton got manner training like Camille did between her first and second season. She's much more endearing this season--she doesn't talk about designers anymore. Also, it's hard not to root for the person who's getting targeted constantly. Finally, Sutton is getting a great edit.

Kyle's edit....well, let's just say that the rumor that she's a producer has been firmly settled for me. Her edit is worse than Diana's and Erika's.

[quote] Andy said on WWHL that Diana has donated money to the victims in the Girardi scam.

That might be the only time in history that a charitable donation has made me like someone *less.*. She doesn’t give two shits about the victims and just wants to stick it to Erika while attempting to make herself look good. What a vile, (mis)calculating bitch.

There was the scene where Kyle and Erika were arguing at the island or whatever it was in the house. The height difference is extreme. And Kyle was wearing a hat too. I’m telling you she is very close to qualifying as having dwarfism.

Lots of chemistry between Mauricio and Dorit. Both are very flirty with eachother. So glad Sutton stayed out of the Erica drama. Even Rinna kept her mouth shut.

I think Kyle was distraught because she’s had to spend most of her life dealing with her concept of her mother vs. the reality of her (likely sociopath ). And Erika not hiding her sociopathy was triggering.

Kathy should bring her friend Kylie Jenner’s lipgloss as a touch up at the next terrible Rinna Beauty party.

This show makes me so glad I’m gay.

I enjoyed the many shots of Erika's fat ass in those white pants.

The more Pazuzu Erika gets, the more guilty she looks.

I think Garcelle, Crystal, and Kyle were all trying to tell her - without telling her outright - that it's not helping her legal case any when she goes on the show and talks about all the cool expensive things she has and all the cool expensive places she's been. But Erika's just too damn dumb to get it.

And of course, we had to get another Bosnia story from Diana: "In Bosnia, we have no ski lessons. Father just pushed me down hill."

R336 hit the nail on the head. Talking about all the fabulous things you possess that came (allegedly) from the backs of victims is a shitty look. Erika has no soul so this doesn’t resonate with her. Oof that shot of her snarling walking toward the camera before Rinna hustled her out was a perfect snapshot of her essence. Kyle was so upset not because she was triggered from her evil mom but because she realized she had bet on the wrong horse and Erika’s ickiness was now a reflection on those who had been standing up for her. Ha ha loved it.

Also, I love how Kathy brought her raggedy purse and slippers on Kyle’s trip because she doesn’t give a fuck about playing along with Kyle’s attempt to make this trip/her tryhard house look extravagant.

What was up with Erika's ridiculous Ginger Grant-style getup when they went out to dinner?

Her outfit screamed "this is what white trash thinks looks stylish."

R337 With two 2x4’s tied to our feetz as skees

Rinna was on good behaviour this episode. Stayed out of the fights, was pretty quiet at dinner, and even said when trying to get Erika out of there something about how Erika is harming her own reputation if she keeps squaking like she was. Some rare moments of normalcy. Though she was a bitch the morning after Diana attacked Sutton.

Rinna was being her usual fuckwit self. Though smirking like a motherfucker during Kathy’s tequila presentation and pretending it was because she was high is better than her usually verbal abuse.

She has turned on Kathy because Kathy was laughing with Garcelle about Homeless Not Toothless, and Rinna blames Garcelle for Harry being mad at her for the revelation that they didn’t pay for tickets to Elton John’s party.

It’s clear these women had it out for Kathy when she got a better deal to return for this season. They were never going to let her get through her tequila pitch.

Garbelle betta done work now child yas hunny

R336 And that's also why Dorit, Rinna, and that cunt Diana ushered Erika out of the house so quickly. They knew if she kept talking, it was a) gonna be great evidence for the attorneys for the airplane crash victims, and b) it was gonna tarnish THEIR reputations, because they've been carrying her water for two seasons now.

PROVE they are victims, r346! PROVE they didn’t get their money! PROVE people are dead! I want corpses!

R347 There better be RECIEPTS that these 'widows and orphans' are actually widows and orphans! Mikey is accepting all life insurance claim numbers...for research purposes.

The more Erica talks the more I want to see her penniless and working a stripper pole in Jersey.

The case against her was dismissed though. The only reason I think she may have legitimately not known about it is because Tom didn't consider her an equal. She was basically furniture to him.

R350 No, it hasn't. One lawsuit regarding Erika and the law firm has been dismissed, but there are others pending. Bitch ain't in the clear yet.

DENISE WELCH HAS SPOKEN! DENISE WELCH HAS SPOKEN! LOOSE WOMAN IN THE HOUSE!

There are tons of comments on Facebook by people who are appalled by Kyle’s treatment of Kathy and professing how much they love Kathy for her quirkiness and being so down to earth. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised by how gullible people are yet it’s still somewhat shocking that people are actually buying Kathy’s very obviously phony persona.

Kathy and Kyle's relationship.

Whoa. Rinnas post just now.

Should Diane have been skiing, wasn't she just saying she had been lying on the floor dying from a miscarriage a few. day prior? /s

No. Poster r355said something about a post from Rinna.

I have zero context for that link. Stop being so opaque r355.

As a producer, part of Kyle’s job is to keep the storyline flowing. I’d say she’s done her job this season. Brava!

LOVED when Kathy told Kyle to stop cursing and told her to “knock it off.”

I see Erika's point. Tom has not been found guilty of anything so saying "i side with the victims" supposes guilt. If I am Erika you are sitting there telling me you think I am guilty. She said the earrings were a gift from 19 years ago. She has no idea if they were bought with stolen money but she will turn them over if the courts find they were. Her point is, that the courts will figure it out.

There's the law and legal process, and there's reality.

There was a lawsuit. There was a settlement. The widows and children who were supposed to benefit from that settlement *did not get their money.*

Whether Erika is a criminal or not is irrelevant to the fact that she is living off funds quite likely stolen.

We know that she is a money grubbing whore, so the part about her keeping the stolen goods doesn’t surprise me at all. I will never understand why women in these sorts of situations (Jen Shah is another example) go on television bragging about how much shit they have. It’s just cataloging everything of value that you own, so you can be sued by the victims for it later. Even if you bought the shit with money that was earned legitimately, you are making yourself a target for thieves. My husband and I considered bankruptcy years ago (drowning in debt) but I knew that we had a good possibility of coming into quite a bit of money a year or two later. I brought it up to the bankruptcy attorney and told him about Teresa Guidice’s bankruptcy. He rolled his eyes and asked if I was stupid enough to go on a reality television show. Asshole.

Giving the earrings is an admission of wrong doing. I hate Erika but she's right not giving them up, yet.

Kathy’s “goofy” persona from last season is gone. This season she is a nitpicker with Kyle and detached and not present the rest of the time. She seems like a very naggy and critical/judgmental sister, as other posters pointed out from clips of her from earlier seasons.

And damn! Erika, tell us you’re a narcissist with no soul! Thanks, good work!

Get rid of Kyle and the rest of the Mean Girls who defend Erika and Diana. They are hypocrites for going after Sutton for things she ALREADY apologized for and then defending Diane and Erika for being despicable human beings.

In Bosnia we kill orphan so they can not sue us later.

Erika should just say that she of course sympathizes with the victims but she’s following the advice her of lawyers and not doing anything until the legal proceedings are done. No one could argue with that.

is that ass lickin and shit stirrin old hag Garcelle off the show yet? her yellow balenciaga disaster dress alone is enuf to send her to the out house....

Still there Erika, still there.

Rinna is tightly coiled and hissing, ready to strike. I can't stand her.

SHe is in a legal battle. She can't say "I feel for the victims," because it is an admission of guilt. She has already said, over and over, I have no knowledge of it (which she was recently removed from the suit, with a judge finding she did indeed have no part in it) but she also said, if that is what happened and it was taken from victims then, of course, I feel terrible and want to make it right. Now does she look good screaming I don't give a shit about them? No. But I think her point is, you guys are my friends or are supposed to be. Don't put me in a place where i have to explain myself on TV and possibly incriminate myself. Just leave me the fuck alone. Sutton was zero part of that conversation too, it was all Garcelle, Crystal and Kyle.

Rinnas face is monstrous. She looks nothing like her authentic self anymore.

R373 Let me blow up your defense of Erikcunt:

1) You say she has already said over and over that she had no knowledge of her husband's criminal activities. If that's the case, she faces no incrimination for saying she feels for the victims. In fact, saying she feels for the victims would help her in a court of law and bolster her contention that she had no knowledge of what her husband was doing.

2) She was removed from only one suit. There are multiple suits pending, which Erika is named in. She is in no way in the clear yet.

3) Returning her ill-gotten gains now would send a message that she wants to cooperate legally and that she's on the side of the victims. They're fucking earrings. $750,000 would go a long way toward making the victims' families whole. Erika has plenty of earrings and God knows how much money stashed away in foreign bank accounts.

Erika is a money grubbing whore, and no, I'm not yet convinced she had no knowledge of her husband's nefarious deeds. Her sudden divorce is still sketchy as hell, as are all the ridiculous stories she told last year about her husband's car accident and the Pasadena snow.

Well if Erika did that r369, what plot would they have had this past Wednesday? Maybe they could have rehashed Sutton walking in on crystal changing again from two seasons ago?

Paris Hilton is bringing the UwU on Twitter after Kyle sabotaged Kathy’s tequila spiel. I guess those from calls to joke about her mom’s cultivate eccentricity will no longer be answered.

Diana apparently skipped the reunion.

[quote]Diana apparently skipped the reunion.

Good, that will solidify Zsa Zsa Gawhore is a one-season wonder. Possibly the worst of all-time.

Has Diana pulled the Covid card?

What a pussy.

She’s attending joining via Zoom.

Fuck Andy if that’s true.

Diana couldn't fit her new cheeks thru the door.

R381 Diana clearly hates the show and having to hang out with these women. I'd tell her to fuck off. If she can't attend the reunion in person, she should be iced out of it completely.

Why the fuck did she even sign on to the show in the first place if she has such contempt for everything about it? Was she hoping to get a career for her gay boyfriend? Obviously, that plan failed.

I call bullshit on Diana having Covid just like I call bullshit on her lawsuit agains the "bots." If she thinks a pointless lawsuit against some anonymous John Does is going to make her look less guilty then she's dead wrong--it makes her look as phony and calculating as she really is.

I don't like Erika.  I think she's cold, nasty, and likely knew, if not the details of Tom's shadiness, at least that he *was* shady.  That being said, I disagree with you on several points, R375.

[quote] she faces no incrimination for saying she feels for the victims.

That's not true.  Legally, an apology can be construed as an admission of guilt.  The same would apply to saying she feels sorry for the victims--acknowledging that these people are victims could be construed as admitting that Tom did something wrong...and by extension that she did something wrong.   That's why she also says *if* there were victims, because to say otherwise could be used against her legally.

[quote] Returning her ill-gotten gains now would send a message that she wants to cooperate legally and that she's on the side of the victims. They're fucking earrings. $750,000 would go a long way toward making the victims' families whole.

Returning things could also be construed legally as an admission of guilt.  And if she's giving up the earrings, why not also her car?  Her clothes?  Her house?  She needs the legal process to play out because otherwise it becomes a never-ending "what about?" regarding her personal possessions.  Also, $750k would be a drop in the bucket considering the amount of money Tom supposedly stole.

[quote] Diana clearly hates the show and having to hang out with these women.

So you say.

But, yes, I agree 100%. Frankly, I don't know why Bravo didn't edit her down to "friend" status before the season premiered. Because it should have been plainly obvious during filming that she was a terrible addition.

Lol I can’t believe Diana’s half-ass reunion bullshit. Cunt, if you don’t want to go, just don’t go.

I hope Kyle finally realises how majorly she fucked up by backing the wrong horse and experiences the blowback for a long time.

Kyle's going to get a double-barrel right to her gourd: Callouts on her fuckups all season long with Erika and Diana v Sutton AND the mistreatment of Kathy (which I think is overblown but has fans LIVID). If Cohen does his job right, she'll get roasted second only to Erika at the reunion.

Kathy deserves any mistreatment she’s gotten this season. See: bullying Kim & others about clothes, sending Paris to a barbaric reform school, icing out Kyle for years, disinviting Mauricio & kids to major family events, etc. Don’t be fooled by the goofy shtick she’s been foisting on us for 2 seasons.

the pathetic Kathy stans on social media are so stupid. They have no idea that Kathy is putting on an act and it's not her real personality. As has been mentioned many times, not only was she different when she had cameos in earlier seasons, but also her own flop reality show about 20 years ago. The stans also don't know the full relationship of Kathy and Kyle. Kyle is allowed to be annoyed at Kathy and Kathy is allowed to be annoyed by Kyle. Kathy does seem very high maintenance. Was it rude that no one paid attention or wanted to indulge in Kathy's new booze venture? absolutely but I laughed because she doesn't need the money anyway

Reading now on social media the reunion filming was VERY long and wore everyone out. Diana was virtual, Kathy attended, Sheree did not

I cannot wait for a Kyle, Rinna, Erika roast-fest!

Andy is a pussy. He probably went roasted Crystal and Sutton.

I love that Diana is using a trip she took almost 2 months ago as an excuse not to attend filming. This is shades of her cold dead fetus hanging out of her gash for 18 months.

[Quote] Maybe they could have rehashed Sutton walking in on crystal changing again from two seasons ago?

Mentioning this is very dark. I feel VIOLATED!

SUTTON AND GAR SELL ARE BORING AS FUCK

I have some frau friends who think Kathy is SO FUNNY and ADORABLE with this bullshit persona she has on the show. It’s like catnip for naive fraus - extremely effective. Meanwhile her children are a mess despite all their privilege - none of them attended college, 2 of them have been in jail - and she’s a vicious cunt underneath it all. It’s so interesting how gullible people are. Say what you want about Kyle, she’s quite awful too, but she’s a better mother than Kathy. I’ll give her that.

If we had no context for Kathy Hilton and she came on the show and behaved this way - sure - it’s totally endearing. But she’s been in the public eye for decades. Her sons are nasty pieces of work and Paris is… Paris. Whatever good qualities Paris has developed over the years - I don’t think Kathy is responsible for any of it.

I take it back - Barron Hilton went to college. The other 3 didn’t. Despite all that wealth and every opportunity.

Barron is the biggest loser of all of the Hilton kids…college didn’t help.

I see Kyle and Mauricio sold their condo and bought a $13M house in Aspen. Poor Kim.

Sutton needs to stop wearing tops that have a sheer/see through cleavage. Her torso is a barrel with two pancake titties and the look does nothing for her but she's always wearing them.

In Aspen a winter destination only? Or is it worth visiting out of snow season? It looks absolutely gorgeous.

Garcelle has a very simplistic view on life. Why would Erika feel obliged to start doling out her belongings to her husband's victims. Even morally, it's a bit of a weak argument. Where does it end?

[quote]I have some frau friends who think Kathy is SO FUNNY and ADORABLE with this bullshit persona she has on the show … Say what you want about Kyle, she’s quite awful too, but she’s a better mother than Kathy. I’ll give her that.

Giving a reality TV personality props for being a good mother is the Frauiest thing ever. No one gives a fuck about who is a good mom but other moms.

Crystal uses the word 'asinine' again. Was this the first three syllable word she learned as the daughter of migrants to the West?

I’ve been watching some early seasons episodes, and I think Adrienne is the worst HW ever on this show. Well, until Zsa Zsa Gawhore. Yep, even worse than the Witch or Taylor or Kathryn.

The thing about Adrienne, for me, is that she didn't need this show to make her more rich, or expand a brand, or create a buzz. This show didn't effect her bottom line like the others. In hindsight, I wouldn't be surprised if Paul encouraged her to do it to create name recognition for his practice.

I just watched the last ep. Rich people HEAT their driveways??? Did Kathy admonish Vyle not to use swear words? Jeeze Katy, your daughter gave head on vid. Used the N and F words. And this upsets you?

I just got Peacock Premium and am catching up on this season (I used to watch the Housewives on Hulu, but they're all leaving in a few days).

It's the aftermath of Garcelle's birthday party for me, and I have thoughts:

- Erika is a sociopathic cunt with a substance abuse problem and she needs to be fired ASAP..

- Kyle is a shit-stirrer who's just as manipulative as LVP. Sick of her and she needs to go.

- Sutton is far too emotionally fragile (possibly autistic?) to be on any Housewife show. Seeing her shaking and crying and saying "oh my God, what is happening" while Kyle manhandled her as Diana laughed was deeply disturbing, not entertaining. Jesus God, if she stays she will need a rubber room. She should be let go for her own good, like Kim.

- Crystal is trying to make a storyline by targeting Sutton for character assassination, which makes me dislike her immensely. If Sutton is gone, maybe she'll grow on me.

- Diana is just meh apart from her sadistic malice when driving Sutton to an emotional breakdown. Even if she really is an international madam, she's boring. She can go or stay, I really don't care.

- Garcelle is by far the most likeable and relatable housewife, though she doesn't have much of a storyline. She can stay but they need to give her something meaty to work with.

I forgot Rinna! I guess she can stay? She's not doing much this season compared to others. The long wig is a great look for her and she should stick with it.

Forgot Dorit, too. Is this a sign there are too many bitches to keep track of?

Unlike most viewers, I think the robbery was real and I think her reaction to it is mostly real. It's really hard to force actual tears and nothing about her trauma and its treatment is unbelievable. That said, after the first maybe three episodes, it's really not interesting. They need to move on.

Dorit needs to get out from under Kyle’s thumb and stir shit up like she used to! #neverforget when she put Rinna and Erika in their places. What happened to that Dorit?

Dorit knows PK staged that whole break in. And she probably, stupidly, has confided in another cast member. Her shit-stirring days may be behind her.

R414 Perhaps Erika/Tom lent her money before the Girardi scandal so now she & PK are enmeshed in her legal issues, I suspect Rinna may gave gotten “loans” too.

Fire all of them except Krystle and cast her 14 former friends.

R409 not just rich people, we had a heated driveway grwoing up, A must for the winter. We would use it to melt the ice and snow but I still had to shovel for some reason. The Mean Girl four are truly just like the movie.

Erika is Regina George. Dorito is Karen, the dumb one, Kyle is Gretchen Weiners, shit stirrer and wannabe and Rinna is June, Regina's mother and "Cool Mom "

R403 - it sounds like a good topic for a new thread. Not throwing shade - actually think it is a good topic and one that will get more answers if asked on its own than buried in this one. I’d be curious too.

[quote] I have some frau friends who think Kathy is SO FUNNY and ADORABLE with this bullshit persona she has on the show … Say what you want about Kyle, she’s quite awful too, but she’s a better mother than Kathy.

Reading House of Hilton, Kathy comes off quite badly--selfish, mean, and inconsiderate. She and Rick insist on staying in Hilton properties for free and once let their dogs piss and shit all over the room rather than walk them. Kathy was raised by Ken Richards but refused to lift a finger when he was dying. Finally she agreed to help with his medical bills--but only if he paid her back. Kim comes off exactly as you'd expect--slightly insecure, under Big Kathy's thumb, and a total drunk. At one point Kim's stepmother flees from Kim's house because Kim is wasted--to the point that she's literally jumping up and down on the bed despite being a grown adult. Kyle comes off the best in the book although that may be because she was the least famous when it was published and gets the least attention in it. But when their father is dying she gets Mauricio's mom (also a doctor) to pull strings to get him into a better hospital in LA and offers to let him move in. Unrelated, but I have a friend who stayed at the same resort in Mexico as Kyle and Mauricio a couple of years ago. He approached them to say he was a fan of RHOBH and said they were incredibly kind and friendly to him.

R399 He was an undergrad at LMU. Does that really count?

Aspen, and all of the Rockies (Estes Park!), are gorgeous in the summer. No need to be a skier/wait for winter to enjoy…

R404 You have a very simplistic view of the law. Bankruptcy, as a federal matter, is resolved in a court of equity—with broad powers to recover assets for redistribution to creditors. Civil litigation, as a federal and state matter, provides for damages and equitable remedies, including restitution for fraud, unjust enrichment, etc.

R403, I live in Denver and actually prefer Aspen in the summer. It’s less crowded, hotels are cheaper, and it’s a less materialistic crowd. You will find some of the best restaurants in the world, in a small quaint village. There is an amazing jazz festival every summer, and cycling downhill is really fun (you don’t have to be in great shape either).

Erika is such a dumb stripper/prostitute. She should have ditched the glam squad, worn modest clothing and poor-mouthed it all season to help her legal cases and to win public favor. If she had done that, then maybe she could have come back from her the scandals.

I love Kathy tell Kyle to stop cursing when Pairs has a whole sex tape out there. Not to mention the racist things Kathy says in the upcoming episodes. What a self-righteous hypocrite. She reminds me of Trump criticizing women for cursing when he's the biggest criminal around. It doesn't make any senes.

Rinna's face without make-up is shocking.

Rinna reminds me of this homeless lady I used to see wandering around San Francisco clucking to herself.

Paris Hilton has been liking Twitter posts attacking Kyle for being awful to Kathy.

There is no love lost between Paris and Auntie Kyle. Kyle references 'my nieces Nicky and Paris" more often than they even think about her.

You mean Paris has time to like tweets instead of getting dicked down by her ultra butch husband?

What does Paris see in that guy, holy shit. She could have anyone she wanted but I guess those Hiltons need men with $$$$$$ and love/attraction plays no part.

Paris’ husband only had a net worth of $40 million ish. I would think that she has more than that? He also knocked up a random Z list reality show participant before Paris. The baby mama said that he only saw the child once, right after it was born.

She's probably one of those non-sexual people that have relationships of convenience like Leonardo Di Caprio

[quote]Paris Hilton has been liking Twitter posts attacking Kyle for being awful to Kathy.

I'm guessing that Kyle is not supporting Kathy after the racist statements and Paris is trying to get out ahead of it by painting Kyle as a bad sister.

R430 Is he the brother of that Tennessee jogger woman who got murdered? They both have those sickly, scary smiles.

I’d take even odds that this Kathy/n word drama ends up being a fakeout. Bravo may see more story with Kyle v Kathy and won’t allow Kathy to become completely radioactive by showing her using the absolute worst slur. They’ve fired people for far far less.

Are we sure Kathy really said the n word and it’s not just a rumor? I’d think if she did say it she’d already be doing damage control to get out ahead of it.

"What does Paris see in that guy, holy shit. She could have anyone she wanted"

Disagree. She's damaged goods as far as any real, wealthy bachelor from a respectable family is concerned. Those guys also can basically have any girl they want.

Yeah, any real wealthy society types would not want her marrying into their family. She’s uneducated, trashy, herpes ridden, and embarrassing.

If Kathy is doing damage control then mistaking Lizzo for Precious on Live TV is the wrong way to do it.

[quote] This show didn't effect her bottom line like the others.

Oh, dear.

Erika is right and the other bitches are whores for basically entrapping her into a implicating conversation.

Kathy is weird. She tried to hard to slang that tequila. I think G or Crys are spreading the N rumors.

Sutton is crazy bitch that plays victim way too much.

Next thread let’s do a poll for everyone’s favorite cast member

Racism accusations is the liberal version of the Qanon pedo claims.

Someone in the cast is a pedo. I can’t say who though.

R444, every encounter between a white person and a person of color that isn’t 100% validating and empowering to the person of color is considered racism these days.

I bought her Casa Del Sol tequila anejo just for shits and giggles. Kinda pricey. $95. But just as smooth as Cazadores for a 4th of the price.

[quote] But just as smooth as Cazadores for a 4th of the price.

Link?

Kyles roll as executive producer is to stir the pot. She does it good.

"I think G or Crys are spreading the N rumors."

It's already been established Lisa Rinna is spreading those rumours. And Kathy doesn't go full KKK in Aspen, she is accused of using a HOMOPHOBIC slur. Again by Rinna.

Why would Rinna target Kathy? Kathy is better connected and more powerful & rich. Kyle is her friend, did Kyle sanction it?

It wouldn’t be the first time Rinna went after Kyles sister and Kyle stayed quiet.

Housewives Superfan Nicki Minaj hates Garcelle.

Nicki Minaj is a sociopath.

The comments in R453 's link pretty much sum up why it's a nothingburger.

Someone in the cast might have raped me. I can’t say who though.

Funny how was Kyle going after Kathy at dinner and under she nose Mauricio was feeding Dorit his chicken sausage.

That’s not the first time Dorit ate his sausage…

The sexual tension between Mauricio and Dorit is insane. How does Kyle not notice?

What a great plot line, one housewife fucking another’s husband. Even better if they want to run off and be together. Has anything like that happened before? I feel like Bravo, which absolutely guides the plot, had not crossed that line because it could definitely lead to some felonies being committed.

Dorit and Mauricio aka Mo would be so cute together!

What’s their couple name? Morit?

Jennifer Lawrence thinks Erica is EVIL!!!!!

R463 Harvey’s Cumguzzler

Dorit can’t possibly be happy sexually with fat assed PK, right? Isn’t Sheree from Atlanta dating Cynthia Bailey’s ex husband?

R463, did she tweet that?

I saw somewhere that apparently the big Aspen drama they have been pedaling turns out to be that Kathy called Sutton's assistant a slut. It wasn't the N word, it wasn't the F word.. just a slut.

R468 my god. Pathetic attempt to drum up drama.

They should all be set on fire.

Kathy called Sutton’s gay assistant a slut? Why is that a scandal , he looks like he spends his free time spread eagle at a bathhouse? It sounds like a factually correct adjective, like saying Kyle and Sutton are shaped like barrels.

Hopefully Kathy called Kyle a retard

Erika will be on WWHL this Wednesday. Should be interesting.

Is Jennifer Lawrence D-list now? She’s commenting on housewives…

Lawrence has always been obsessed with housewives. It’s part of what makes her so #relatable. Such a down to earth movie star, right????

Erika should go door to door handing out her jewelry.

[Bravo may see more story with Kyle v Kathy and won’t allow Kathy to become completely radioactive by showing her using the absolute worst slur. They’ve fired people for far far less.]

They sure did! And I'm a Carnie Kid, y'all! All I did was say someone was getting all Cuban up in here!

Do you think they'll bring Joyce and Carlton back?

I hated Carlton at the time but she was funny in retrospect. She should have leaned more into the witchcraft than be irritated about people’s curiosity.

I would have enjoyed watching her host a Beltane celebration, attend a Renaissance Faire or undertake a ritual sacrifice.

It will never happen but I would love a return fur Carlton. In all these seasons, she us the only HW to openly call Kyle on her shit and just loathe her. I would be completely in for a season of Carlton absolutely and relentlessly tearing Kyle down. And giving her a beehive.

Kathy last week: Kyle don’t curse. Kathy this week: I am fucking pissed off.

Is Erika really that dumb that she thinks she was exonerated by her being dismissed from that one case?

I liked Crystal in this episode. She saw right through Erika's "I'm exonerated" bullshit. Nah, girl, it just means you're case is gettin' re-filed in California, and you have a dozen other still waiting in line.

How much of a heartless cunt do you have to be to wear the fucking earrings in question in an episode of the show? It was Erika giving a huge middle finger to all the crash victims' survivors.

Erika is the cuntiest cunt to have ever cunted.

Watching Kyle in this episode, it's so clear how much being a child in a family of alcoholics has damaged her. As the child of an alcoholic parent myself, I know what it's like to walk around on eggshells and how easy it is to fall apart when you feel like you're unable to please anyone or keep everyone happy.

Not that I don't think Kyle often brings drama on herself, but I did feel for her a bit this week.

God, I really hate Diana. Did you see her when she and Dorit went into that store in Aspen? She ignored the staff, and she walked around the place acting like she'd get a disease if she touched anything.

Erikunt was on WWHL last night and said the reunion taping was explosive, and that it was the first time the cast didn’t pose for a photo after, or go to dinner after they were done. Sounds like a lot of Kyle/Kathy drama.

No one made Insta stories the day after the reunion except for Kyle

r487 As an adult child of a mentally ill parent and the other being a scared of the nutjob, thus being her biggest enabler, I too got it.

This was the first time I didnt hate Kyle for falling apart. I too have trouble being a mature adult and fall apart pretty easily myself... I hope your life t this point is OK. I’m still healing

R491 Thanks for your kind words. I do pretty well, but to this day, there are times when someone will say or do something that sends me back to my childhood, trying my best to keep the peace and feeling helpless when things fall apart. Like watching Kyle last night. It brought everything back.

Hope you're on the right track.

Erica also admitted on WWHL that was indeed forced to hand over her earrings.

[quote] Erica also admitted on WWHL that was indeed forced to hand over her earrings.

"They were my earrings until they weren't my earrings"

On WWHL there was also a passing reference to no-showing for a reunion being a "punk move".

R945 Who said it? Definitely not Erika, right? Had to be Miss Andy or Michael Rappaport.

[quote] Who said it? Definitely not Erika, right? Had to be Miss Andy or Michael Rappaport.

Wonky played the game '"Fact or Non-Fact" with Erikunt and Rappaport.

He made the statement "skipping out on a reunion is a punk move".

Both held up a sign that said "Fact"...

Additionally, Erikunt was asked about Zsa Zsa Gawhore donating $100K to the victims and if she thought that was shady. She said no, because that's who Gawhore is - a philanthropist who helps people all over the world, So, she still sucking up to that asshole. Says a lot about her, not that we don't know that already.

R492..it hasn’t been easy, I was never able to make much of myself..mostly over fear of failure...

I did just buy a home for myself in the mountains of WV...a huge change for someone who grew up on LI NY and lived in Fl for 20 yrs. We all (most of us) deserve some peace in our lives..hope you found yours, too

Interesting that Rinna didn’t hang with her buddies Erica and Diana last night and seemed to be getting along with Sutton and Garcelle. I actually felt bad for Dorit who was just trying to do what she thought was the right thing. Loved Crystal and loved that Sutton stayed out of the Erica drama.

R498 If you've got a home in WV, you're doing just fine. Give yourself a hand!

Thanks R500...1.2 acres, view of the mountains on the porch swing...healing

Rinna looked like a rodeo clown but I loved how she got under Kathy's skin and seems to have triggered a meltdown.

For a rich woman Diana always dresses so tacky. Dorit and Erika looked appropriate for strolling around Aspen and then there's Diana in a chav tracksuit. Yes, it's Gucci, but a track suit is a track suit. What a slob.

Kyle is entirely centred on self.

She was mad at Erika for saying she didn’t care because it made her look like a moron for siding with a heartless grifter.

Asking Garcelle to talk to her as protection when Erika was at the bar. FFS.

And once she cried and Erika soothed her ego with hugs, she was joking about it. After her behaviour with all the other women she targeted over the years: hypocrisy, thy name is Kyle.

[After her behaviour with all the other women she targeted over the years: hypocrisy, thy name is Kyle.]

I would like Sutton to ask, at their next dinner, "Kyle? Erika? Did you both settle your issues about how Kyle said you should care about the victims? And Erika, did you apologize for calling her an ignorant cunt? Just checking, because you're both my friends and I'd hate there to be bad blood between you over the things you've said about one another."

Kathy put a White Lady Curse on Kyle in that Sprinter van.

Pointing out the obvious but isn’t Erika acting like a cunt because she knew she was taking money from victims and didn’t care? Innocent people don’t act that way.

R502 Like she did with Eden, Yolande, LVP, Denise, Sutton…

Rinna is annoyed she couldn’t quite figure out how to do it with Garcelle without being accused of racism TBH she’s skated pretty close at least twice.

R504 Stop it! Kyle made it nice!

Dorit chose her side this episode and I'm not really surprised it was the "heartless, grifting cunt" side.

^^ good to see Crystal didn't join her.

I will never understand straight white guys who watch Housewives.

Like Michael Rappaport.

I can only imagine it reminds them of watching soap operas with their grandmothers.

On WWHL, Rappaport hit the nail on the head when he described Kathy: she acts all ditzy and clueless - just like her daughter's persona - but knows exactly what is going on and is ice cold and sharp as a knife.

Dorit looks stupid supporting Erika. But they are both grifters.

All this build up for Aspen and they end up showing us … nothing.

Lots of advertisements for overpriced small businesses, r515. I was about to stab myself after hearing the name of the store ‘Kemo Sabe’ 1,000 times. The store isn’t even that special. I have seen them in Vegas, Vail, and Aspen. Somehow it’s Kyles favorite store on earth?

The episode really made them look like white trash. Kyle probably thinks that store is so great because she can get drunk in it. It’s nothing special.

Seems like Rinna and Diana were fired. We’ll find out.

I can’t imagine why Diana would want to come back. She’s more of a ‘friend of’ this season anyway. She’s had about the same amount of screen time as Sheree.

R517 As long as Diana's out, I'm good.

If I were Crystal I would make a mix loop of Erika saying “I don’t give a fuck about the victims.”

R520 Some gay DJ should make a dance song out of that, like they did with Barbra's "Shut the fuck up!"

I agree with Erika. It's not appropriate for her to sympathize with people who filed the lawsuits. She should rightfully make no comments because they could be used against her.

It's ludicrous for Crystal to keep insisting she show sympathy for the victims. I would bristle, too. You say what you want to, it's irritating to have someone tell you how you should feel and what you should say. It makes Crystal unlikable to keep insisting, to act all holier than thou when she should just leave her friend alone.

I haven't seen as many seasons as some of you. Is the edit that Sheree got this season indicative of anything in terms of the future? Why did they even bother having her on?

Erika shouldn’t make statements about the victims but she also shouldn’t be wearing furs, getting her makeup done by her glam squad and showing off $2,000 purses. Not a good look under the circumstances.

Sure, Erika may not be able to show sympathy for legal reasons, but that doesn't mean she has to go mental and start shouting that she doesn't give a shit about them and that she only cares about herself. She could just say she is not in a position to discuss it.

None of the ladies call out Erika on her main problem, which is she is mean and a jerk. She’s really Trumpian in constantly attacking anyone who dares ask a question or call her on her bullshit. I wish someone would just tell her to fuck off.

Wow, Diana in that liquor and pie store was just the epitome of entitlement.

Erika to Diana: Would you like a cocktail?

Server: Margarita?

Diana: Why not. If that's a cocktail.

[Quote] Diana in that liquor and pie store was just the epitome of entitlement.

It was only second time in store in life. I am titled. And in Bosnia we have no Mark and Rita so I not know that was cocktail. In Bosnia, we drink cocktail called Blood, Tears, and Dead Baby.

By way, I bleeding all over floor and Sutton attacking me as I type.

I'm ready for the reunion. The season is not that interesting.

r523 the fat, walking cunt aka EJG could look sad, nod her head and sympathetically say “I’m sorry but I have been advised not to discuss this” That’s all she would have to do.

Chemo Sobby should've set the hats on fire while the ladies had them on.

Rinna running around that store with her head on fire would've absolutely saved this season.

Dorit, Crystal and Sutton are promoting Don’t Worry Darling.

Poor Olivia Wilde. How the mighty have fallen.

Rinna is reposting Nicki Minaj. She reallllly hates Garcelle.

Honey we all cant stand Garcelle, we jus fraid to say it......she is a dope.

Sutton bonds with Crystal in their mutual condemnation of Erika.

A season earlier, Crystal bonds with Erika in their dislike for Sutton.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend? Or....

Just watched. I thought Kyle’s reaction when Kathy was simmering about Rinna ordering the 818 tequila was very telling. Kyle seemed to be pretending the situation wasn’t happening - she was sort of buzzing around and not making eye contact and talking to the other women. I believe Kathy is a psycho with an anger management problem. Rinna is an asshole but her texts about Kathy’s meltdown were probably completely accurate.

As someone who also grew up with a parent like that - Kyle’s behavior on this episode resonated a lot - with the walking on eggshells around Kathy and pretending everything with her was fine, waiting for the tension to blow over and then the weird decompensating because of the stupid conflict with Erika and Dorit. And making up with Erika without discussing the conflict at all - just crying and wanting everything to be fine.

Yeesh. And I don’t even like Kyle.

I wonder how different the trip would have been without Kathy there - Kyle probably would have been less shaky and sobby and more like her cunt self. It was as though she morphed into how she acted as a kid in that abusive family structure with Kathy present.

Erika…. lord. Crystal should have yelled at her less about the victims and more about how she speaks to her “friends.” It’s wildly aggressive and completely out of control.

Sutton seemed so relieved not to be the center of the conflict for once. And loved Garcelle’s reaction when Kyle sat down and said “omg can you pretend to be talking to me???? Erika just got here and it’s so awkward omg!!” Garcelle was like Jesus fucking Christ 😑😑😑

[quote] Honey we all cant stand Garcelle, we jus fraid to say it......she is a dope.

Is that supposed to Ebonics, Lisa?

Nice try, Diana. I guess it’s the thought that counts.

I can buy into Erika's argument about not handing over the earrings because it could be perceived as guilt, likewise for showing sympathy... but to then actually WEAR the fucking earrings on camera... thats the really the big F you to everyone.

R541 Erika loses any and all credibility when she says she has to be careful about what she says and does because of pending legal action, then every week, flaunts her fashion, glam squad, hair extensions, and those fucking earrings for a nationwide television audience.

She's full of shit. She doesn't give a damn about the victims. She raises a middle finger to them every Wednesday night.

Erika really does come off like a sociopath. It’s kind of remarkable.

[Quote] She doesn't give a damn about the victims.

HOW DO YA THINK I FEEL? Huh? Here I am, people who may not even BE dead suing me for money my husband stole! Sue Girardi Keyes, not me, the person whose bank accounts they put the money into! Do you think I LIKE living in this small three-bedroom house with pool and cabana? it's not Hancock Park! it's Hancock Park ADJACENT, cunts! Yeah, it's nicer than the house of the guy whose house exploded with him in it and whose burn recovery money probably bought my panther ring but this house is in BEVERLY GROVE for fuck's sake! So HOW DO YA THINK I FEEL?

Why does she hate her house? It’s my favourite on the show.

R544 Erika lives in the guest house. She’s getting a nice edit, cause that’s the truth.

That makes sense r544. Or it is tiny inside-most of her scenes at the house are outdoors or in the kitchen.

I listened to a podcast and apparently at the reunion Erika reveals that one of the dramas in Aspen is that Kathy called a DJ a “fag”. Erika claims that requested a Michael Jackson song and the DJ refused and told to get her old ass bank to LA. And Kathy hurumphs over to Erika and says “that old fag told me to get my ass back to LA!”. And at the reunion Kathy denies everything.

And Jamie Lee Curtis is a surprise guest.

[quote]And Jamie Lee Curtis is a surprise guest.

So chic!

r540 I wonder how Cuntela know no one else has donated to the victims.... we know that .real philanthropists dont have to announce every good deed they do...only attention seeking Ho’s have to do that

Well was the DJ an old fag?

I feel like Kathy calling the DJ a fag is probably the most benign of her issues.

So homophobic. She should have called him a bitch.

Why does she keep bragging about her friendship with MJ? Has she missed the latest on him? Was she an early “Procura” for him?

Did Kathy go to school with Michael Jackson? Or did he know all the aspiring child actors in the Valley?

Joe and Kathy got the kids together for beatings.

Erika can legit be scary when she is angry. The way her voice lowers and she snarls is just not normal.

The contents of the Pasadena Palazzo is being auctioned!

I actually feel sad that Erika’s chapel has been dismantled.

Happy 58th Birthday Kim Richards!

That Kathy story rings true. The whole Hilton family uses words like fag and the n-word.

[Quote] The whole Hilton family uses words like fag and the n-word.

But we don't mean them. And they aren't bad words--like "liar", "thief", or "pedophile".

The first minutes of tomorrow’s episode reveals that Kyle, too, doesn’t want to stay in her tiny house.

So the only witness is Rinna, who is texting blow by blows to Erika Jayne?

Kathy had too much tequila. It happened to me once and I raged for hours at my friends, broke things, packed up my car with all my belongings. The next day they chalked it up to me having too much tequila, and we moved on.

Where were the cameras when this went down?

Sorry, R568, but that isn’t something that normal people just do.

Kathy is really a wild ape

Kathy’s true colors came out.

This is all that old fag DJ's fault.

R569 have another Xanax, did you take your Lexapro?

Something fishy here. Those vans have cameras. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of those producers slipped her something, there is some shady shit happening at that network.

R569 is a fucking douchebag, you can just tell. If it weren’t for people like R568 who have real human emotions the world would be a boring place. Imagine a bunch of 569s just sitting around swirling red wine, saying inane bullshit, and looking at everyone in judgment with their ugly cunt face.

there must be a middle-ground between wine swirling snobbery and tequila fueled poop-throwing.

Since there's no footage of what went down, I have to believe Kathy threatened Bravo with a massive lawsuit if they aired any of it.

Word is Kathy is wheeled on in caged at the reunion, like a big fat stupid bird.

Paris already said n_ and f— on private home videos years ago. The tapes have been scrubbed from the internet but they were all over YouTube & Perez for awhile. Everyone saw them.

Bethenny and Kyle are BFFs, those two know all of Andy’s misdeeds, he knows a lot about them and the NBCU and Bravo execs, so it’s like DUCKDUCKGOOSE with blackmail.

VERY fishy that Kathy’s alleged tirade happened off camera while they were out. So the camera crew went back to their hotel after dinner when they’d been drinking? No way.

R581 Not a chance. All of it was filmed - what happened in the club, what happened in the car, and what happened at Kyle's.

When Kathy sobered up the next day, she probably threatened a massive lawsuit against Bravo if they dared to air the footage, so it magically disappeared.

R582 their contracts pretty much bar against anything like that. Likely she threatened to out a secret she knew.

R583 Some kind of threat occurred, for sure.

Kathy lawyers are making them re-edit the show to protect her reputation. I hope she is fired.

Maybe Rinna recorded it with her phone?

Of course, Auntie Andi is fine with someone throwing out f@g as a slur. It’s hilarious to watch who is protected in this world and who is not. Liberals are no different than republicans in their hypocrisy. If she said something racial or transphobic then it would be an issue, but f@g who cares, right? Mizz Cuecard probably has a l@tino twink tied up in bond@ge to deal with anyway.

R586 If she did, I'm sure Bravo confiscated it.

R588 lol is Bravo the fucking FBI now? Wtf. This psycho bitch drama has so many tentacles. Bravo, endorsement deals, Pg 6 and TM|Z etc they all dish on each other then have to pay off H@rvey to catch and kill all this shit or they’ll publish it, it’s like a merry-go-round inside a car wash.

R589 I'm sure the women all sign contracts that say they're not allowed to personally film scenes without Bravo's consent. I imagine if Rinna was filming Kathy's breakdown on her phone, Bravo could easily step in and say, "Nope, we didn't approve this. Hand it over."

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